Hosts of War Room Pandemic Stephen K. Bannon and Raheem Kassam welcome guest Dave Ramaswamy to dissect the recent TIME Magazine 6,500 word article written by Molly Ball on how the 2020 election was rigged.
Bannon: Before I turn to Dave Ramaswamy who brought this to my attention immediately upon seeing it. Raheem, I say they are trying to control the narrative because they know that guys like you and Darren Beattie have outed them. So now they don’t mind saying the quiet part out loud. Remember I’m the guy that’s no conspiracy, no deep state, no coincidences. They are saying, no, no Bannon, we actually did work together. They actually used the word cabal. I mean it’s stunning. Molly Ball is a great writer. This was all pushed together. They said they want to say it. They want to brag about it, right? Raheem, what are your thoughts?
Kassam: So I want people to understand. I’m going to do a little reset here. TIME Magazine has about 6,500-word article about what they call, what they the conspiracy to take this election from President Trump. It’s called the Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election. And in a lot of ways, it did save the 2020 election. It saved the 2020 election from a bumbling candidate who couldn’t draw a crowd together. It saved the 2020 election…
Bannon: From a landslide. From us.
Kassam: Exactly. It saved the 2020 election from this huge amount of activity and excitement that there was out there for President Trump and his first three years in office and everything he achieved in terms of the economy. And all the votes he was taking away from the Democrats in minority communities. When they say saved, they really do mean saved. Saved for the political left.
But it’s really interesting the language that TIME Magazine has allowed Molly Ball to use. Because if you or I used that language Madeleine Pelt would be up our bottoms with a hot poker. She would be telling us that we are conspiracy theorists. You are lunatics. You are psychopaths and you are a danger to democracy. Here is the language that Molly Ball uses.
Bannon: Madeline throws in here. Because I hate to say it, I think Raheem’s right on this one. I know he’s got issues (Raheem laughs) but I think he’s right on this one.
Kassam: Yeah, I’ve got loads of issues.
Bannon: I want you to continue. Dave Ramaswamy, I want to bring you in. Tee us up and then I want Raheem to go forward. As soon as you saw it you knew this was explosive. You and I talked about it in the middle of the night. Particularly the language. I want you and Raheem to go back and forth on this. Walk our audience through why the concept, the construct, and the language is in your grill.
Ramaswamy: Let me save you from drowning said the man to the fish as he pulled it out of the water and put it up on a tree. (Bannon chuckles) You know the British philosopher Alan Watts ripped off of this Buddhist parable which is very instructive and relevant in this regard Steve and Raheem. And I know last year both of you were in the vanguard of calling attention to this network of what I call managers.
The manager industrial complex which is working behind the scenes transcending administrations to determine the outcomes of democracy. And this complex which is very well highlighted in this article like people are worried that voters acting of their own agency and volition could accidentally make the wrong decision. So they want a network of what the Rabbi called these academics, holders of advanced degrees to intermediate themselves between the voter and the ballot box to manage democracy.
Bannon: Hang on. Raheem, that’s a brilliant set up. Go through some of the language and then we’ll go to the break and bring you and Dave Ramaswamy back. Walk us through. This is electric.
Kassam: It starts, a weird thing happened right after the November 3 election: nothing. The nation was braced for chaos. Liberal groups had vowed to take to the streets planning hundreds of protests around the country. Right-wing militias were girthing for battle. In a poll, before election day Americans voiced concerns about the violence. And a lot of people did have that kind of scratching of their heads because they were told for so long by the media that they were going to running gun battles in the streets of Washington, D.C., and so forth.
Bannon: The siege of Washington, D.C.
Kassam: Then it goes down and it says, in a way, Trump was right. There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes. One that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. It says, Molly Ball writes, that’s why participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream. A well-funded cabal of powerful people ranging across industries and ideologies working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage, and control the flow of information.
Bannon: That is the introduction. The opening of 6,500 words. We’ve got to now go to break.
Kassam: It caught my attention.
Bannon: 6,500-word essay analysis by Molly Ball. One of the best writers out there and certainly one of the best writers of the time up in your grill.
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